Northport BOE Pushes Point on 7-Eleven

Brief filed in State Supreme Court emphasizes opposition against proposed convenience store.

The Northport-East Northport Board of Education voted to submit a statement to the State Supreme Court reemphasizing its opposition to a proposed 7-Eleven on Waterside Avenue and Fort Salonga Road.

The resolution to submit an Amicus curiae, or "friend of the court" brief, was presented after a 30 minute executive session during the BOE's Oct. 15 meeting. Many saw it as a last ditch effort to influence the court's decision in a lawsuit filed by 7-Eleven against the town last year which claims that new regulations adopted by the town unfairly discriminate against convenience stores.

The 7-Eleven would serve as a danger to nearby Northport Middle School students by exacerbating traffic at an already busy intersection and serving as an attractant, said BOE members.

"We feel that this is an accident waiting to happen," said Board President Stephen Waldenberg.

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The resolution to submit the brief was passed with one objection from Trustee Joe Sabia. Sabia was concerned that the $6,500 max attorney fee to draft and submit the brief was a "gamble" of taxpayers money because it is not guaranteed that the court will consider the document.

"At this point we should let the proceedings take their course of action and see where it goes from there," he said.

ed orourke October 18, 2012 at 05:03 PM
just what we don't need. another 7-11. there is one a mile away.
Kathy H October 18, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Keep the 7-11's in East Northport with the tatto palor. Keep Northport Northport.
John C October 18, 2012 at 05:47 PM
To Kathy H - Just because you line in Northport does not make you any better ( no matter what you think) It's business not personal.
Kathy H October 18, 2012 at 06:40 PM
Oh, ok. Sure. All the section 8 housing, the grid, and all the rest? Right.
Mom of 3 October 18, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Way to go John C and Kathy H there already is a 7-11 in Northport..so turn your nose down from being up too high..
Carla October 18, 2012 at 07:55 PM
7-11 or 11-7 what the hell is the school district doing wasting taxpayers money on court procedings involving commerical developments ? Is this the new norm on intrusion into non-educational affairs as the straw man of local political debate at taxpayers expense ? Maybe, just maybe, some taxpayers want a local 7-11 as a local convenience in constrast to BOE wasteful wisdoms.
DPP October 18, 2012 at 08:31 PM
Kathy H! The H must stand for 'Holy S*** What a Moron'! Agree 100% with Karl that an Amicus Curiae brief is just another waste of taxpayer money unless they have a specific study to back up their arguments which would be another major expense. That 5 way angled intersection (25A, Waterside and Main Street) has always been a disaster and the Town/Village/School District would be better served pushing for better controls to make it safer starting with making Main street one way west off 25A for the first 200 to 300 yards. That would eliminate people trying to turn left (or right for that matter) onto 25A off Main Street which is what makes it so dangerous. Northport has the same problems as every other community so don't blame it on a 7-11 or any other store for that matter. You sound like.
Sane Jane October 18, 2012 at 11:01 PM
Kathy H - Wow...If you really are a resident of Northport, I am ashamed to say I'm your neighbor. What an obnoxious comment. Personally, I see us as one community and you should too since we all pay taxes to one school district and like it or not, that carries a lot of weight with regard to how those outside of 11768 view us. Think property values. As for the BOE concerning themselves with this issue and standing up for the safety of the 1,000+ students of Northport Middle, I say THANK YOU (except for you Joe Sabia)! Whether or not a student is a walker or bussed, doesn't matter. Kids do not need the magnet of a 7-11 drawing them to cross at an already very dangerous intersection no matter which direction they are coming from. The BOE has heard from many concerned parents and citizens and spending no more than $6,500 to reiterate their opposition on our behalf is money well spent, even if it doesn't guarantee a thing.
Lin October 18, 2012 at 11:55 PM
that is an ignorant elitist statement
Ranger Sewer October 19, 2012 at 10:47 AM
TAXPAYER MONEY on something their NOSE should not be in.
Carla October 19, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Think property taxes, precisely ! Wasteful and grandiose spending by local government and school districts have an impact with higher property taxes and directly effect property values negatively. A new commercial use here would enhance the tax revenue at that location increasing the tax base, which is good for all property values. 1000+ students do not walk from middleville and if its safety your addressing, there are many ways to provide that without wasting tax money. Of course if its just about a "7-11" issue, and your a "Starbucks person" thats a different marketing matter. Kudos to Joe Sabia for having the spine the stand up for whats rational and in the best interests of all taxpayers !
Frieda R October 19, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Being PC on this issue is also not being honest. People north of 25A know what I mean. Things are a little different. We are not saying we are better, just different. We do not have fast food/gas station/tatto parlor/bowling alley on every corner and we like it that way. Some people more enjoy the comforts that maybe they enjoyed while living in Queens. Not to say East Northport is Queens but if you had to pick one side of twon that was and one that was not...NO brainer. If a tatto parlor/McDonalds/Sonic or similar was to move on to the Neck I would consider moving off. Strongly. Just how I and many here feel. Special? No, just different,
Hog Driver October 19, 2012 at 01:13 PM
Oh, pahhhdon me. Please pass the Grey Poupon....
WARREN October 19, 2012 at 02:18 PM
put it were the post office is in northport,that will twist kath h,she sounds very pleasant
WARREN October 19, 2012 at 02:19 PM
buy a clue lady
DPP October 19, 2012 at 02:38 PM
And what would really make Northport a better place is if we could somehow figure out a way to tow Eatons Neck into the middle of the Atlantic along with Asharoken and their useless PD! Now that would be a perfect world! Frieda, you represent everything that's wrong with thinking you're living on the "right side of the tracks". By the way, kudos to Trustee Joe Sabia for making a difficult but realistic evaluation and not treating $6500 as a minor expenditure.
Dad of Three October 19, 2012 at 05:57 PM
The health and safety of children is absolutely part of the responsibility of any school district. The Board is acting prudently and appropriately, and would be negligent in their duties if they failed to consider the impact on students in the district.
Frieda R October 19, 2012 at 06:35 PM
We like things how they are here. If you want your area to look like Queens Boulevard then that is your choice. We live here for a reason. Thank you.
DPP October 19, 2012 at 06:57 PM
Let me see; we have a vacant gas station that is roped off and has used cars for sale and someone wants to put in a 7-11 that will require architectural review. This will turn 25A into Queens Blvd and somehow impact your life in the vast reaches of Eatons Neck. You are Special!
Carla October 19, 2012 at 07:38 PM
I'm a native here, my roots go back to 1895 in Northport, and have lived in both 11731 and 11768 intermittently as we locals make no real differentiation. But if I had ever in the past contemplated going elsewhere in the world, it would have been soley because of attitudes as displayed here in your arrogant posting. There is no doubt in my mind whatsoever, this area looked much better to us, before your type of thinking migrated here from elitist avenue. If I had to make a choice I indeed would prefer any 7-11 or Sonic to your, "just different".
Louise October 19, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Bottom line is this: the potential 7-11 property falls into TOH perview, not Northport or East Northport or Ft. Salonga. If TOH wants to put the 7-11 there, it will go there. Since the fat cats in Huntington are looking for revenue in every nook and cranny (mainly our pockets), they will make sure to line their pockets with 7-11 payoffs.
DPP October 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM
What is commercial property for other than business development. That's a busy intersection regardless of whats decided upon and there are plenty of ways to make it safer if that's really the concern. Do we really need another 7-11? Of course not but the School Board should stay out of this fight and spend their money in and on the schools. That location would have a limited impact, if any, on the safety of students at Northport Middle School where cars are backed up on Middleville Road because the kids rarely, if ever, walk or ride their bikes to school. There has never been a word about that intersection until a 7-11 is mentioned and now it becomes a rallying cry for people to start spending taxpayer dollars to submit an amicus curiae brief which may or may not be considered. Win or lose, 7-11 is the type of company that will take their argument to the appellate courts but hey whats another $6500. You have a recently built 7-11 on the corner of Larkfield and Pulaski Road which is in proximity to East Northport Middle, 5th Avenue, Bellerose Ave, Pulaski Road School, Northport High School, the Library, Little League Fields and even St Anthonys and not a peep from the School Board. The Town restricted ingress and egress to that location off Pulaski and Larkfield Road and its a busier and more dangerous intersection than the one being discussed. Once again, good for Trustee Sabia in voting his conscience which I am sure was not an easy thing to do.
Lin October 20, 2012 at 12:30 AM
Please spell check articles prior to posting... Valid point Txdenuff!
Jack October 20, 2012 at 12:47 AM
I believe Northport Village has been given say (or input) on what businesses or the appearance of a business is on the commercial strip on the south side of 25A (opposite the boundary of the village). If anyone has precise info and I am mistakenon this, please correct me. I have to say I am blown away about the "big shots" on this thread although not completely surprised to hear these snobs. I have lived in the area since 1969 and found it always a "go along, get along" town until I noticed a bit of this snobbery filtering in over the last 15-20 years. I live in Northport Village and I can tell you there is nothing different about the people in East Northport and Northport except for the small minority of snobs like Freida. I also know many people on Askaroken and Eatons Neck and they are not like Freida.
good guy October 21, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Well said, karl
karen from East Northport October 22, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Oh my goodness, Kathy H. You never know where you'll end up in life and well you yourself could be south of the border (meaning 25a) someday. Let's hope your not thou, because you don't appear to be a nice person. I, too have lived in both communities. Pro's and cons to both. But, where was the BOE when 7-11 squeezed into Pulaski and Larkfield? I guess these 7-11's keep our xing guards employed. But it is supply and demand that is really in question. We in the community who shop there and give them our money only encourage store owners to multiply their profits and locations. Look out Centerport, you're next.
mondj October 25, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Kathy H-I grew up in the village. It seems by your statements that the people in section 8 housing, the grid and "all the rest" of East Northport have more class than you. It's people like you who have changed Northport for the worse.
mondj October 25, 2012 at 12:41 AM
Really Kathy and Frieda? This is what is important? With all the poverty, fighting and illness in our world, this is what you are angry about? This is just sad.
anom October 25, 2012 at 07:32 PM
Northport is no better then anywhere else. It is just the people who live there that think they are better. A 7-11 could bring people and business to the area. Leave it alone and let what happens happen. As other people have previously mention the taxpayers money could have been spent somewhere else, other then the greedy people in northport who think they are better then everyone else. People lake Freida and Kathy H make me sick.
MJ November 09, 2012 at 02:16 AM
I grew up in the grid in East Northport and am proud of it. Maybe my parents didn't have the fancy cars or house, but I had a good upbringing and I would never have thought to put anyone else down because of where they lived. I have also lived on 25A for 14 years in an Apt. with my 2 children and can tell you that some of the people who live int the village can be cruel. No one is better than someone else, just because of a zip code or the location of their address. What section 8 housing, last time I looked it still isn't in East Northport. We already have a 7-11 on laurel and dickenson avenue and its never caused a problem with the school right next door. That store has been there since I was a kid. I just can't believe that people still have that better than you attitude. Im tired of others trying to make me feel inferior just because of where I live, did it ever accur to you that you could be hurting someone elses feelings by the way you see things. No that would never accur to you because you are too busy just thinking about yourself and how great you are and how others arent worth anything because they are not you. Maybe someday you will grow up.


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