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Tell Us: Should Town Fence in Ponds?

Toddler drowning death in Heckscher Park pond sparks debate.

A child's drowning death at Heckscher Park pond Nov. 11 has sparked a debate over whether to fence public water features to prevent future tragedy.

"I beg the town supervisor to please put up a gate around the pond. Too many children wander off near that pond to see the ducks," said one commenter.

"I agree that a fence should be put up. My daughter fell in 16 years ago when she was 2 years old also," said another. "I jumped right in and grabbed her out, leaving my newborn in the stroller on the sidewalk. Will never forget it. My condolences to this poor baby's family, I'm so sorry.

Others vehemently opposed the idea.

"A gate doesn't need to be put up around the pond. Unfortunately, tragedies happen every day in often the most unlikely and unexpected of ways. Not everything needs to be regulated or fenced in," said one.

"It is not the job of the town to parent small children," said another. "This tragedy was an accident. We can't prevent every accident from happening. My heart breaks for these parents but I'm totally against the idea of a fence around the pond."

Where do you stand? Should Heckscher Park Pond by fenced in? Should all public water features be fenced in?

Tell us in the comments below.

escape November 14, 2012 at 11:05 am
Rather than putting up a fence, how about the town have a 'drop box' at the entrance of the park where parents can leave their smartphones, so they can supervise their children themselves, without distraction?
We ban smartphones when driving...why not when parenting? It's not the government's responsibility to be a nanny!
Lauren Snider November 14, 2012 at 11:50 am
I think often times parents loose track of their children because of distractions. I know that when I babysit my younger siblings, I keep an eye on them at all times. If we are walking in a public area, I have them at my side and holding my hand. I do think one major distraction is technology and I know I fall short in this area as well. If I get a text message, I stop what I'm doing to answer it.
I know many parents will say to put a fence around the pond but if we do fence it in, does that mean we should fence off Northport harbor on the dock or fence off the water at the beach? I think we should do something about all the geese and ducks that can cause children to run off. They have multiplied in great numbers because they have very little predators at the park. Northport park used to be the same way before dogs were allowed. Dog owners clean up after their dogs, geese don't so everywhere you go there are geese droppings or a goose hissing at you. Also, children need to learn to stay at their parents side. We do that everywhere else so why not at the park?
Steve Stone November 14, 2012 at 12:05 pm
No to the fence. Yes to parents watching their toddlers. While my heart goes out to this family, toddlers need to be watched at all times. Turning away for one second can lead to a tragedy, whether it be a child falling into a pond, or a child being kidnapped.
An Original November 14, 2012 at 12:33 pm
Or a child wanderin off, or falling into the backyard pool, or running into traffic, or falling down stairs... No to the fence, yes to parenting.
Dave Bruyn November 14, 2012 at 02:03 pm
Oh, gee what a proposal. Let's fence in the ocean while we are at it! Parents, take notice. You are charged with supervising your children. Let's fence in the incompetent parents by putting them in jail.
Robert M. November 14, 2012 at 02:11 pm
I would like to offer my heartfelt condolences to the family who lost their child at the Heckscher Park pond. It is difficult to comprehend such a loss.
The one comment I have regarding the subject of this article is that while the death of a child is an unspeakable tragedy, the idea of fencing in nature and in turn the potential sources of danger that lies within simply does not make sense. The comment about Northport Harbor is a valid point. Do we fence in the harbor because a child can fall in? If we do then why would we not fence in every body of water on Long Island? We would then need to build a fence around all ponds, harbors, lakes and beaches. This approach to child safety is unfeasible. If in doubt about safely perhaps keeping the child in a stroller or holding the child’s hand while by the pond is a better choice.
Concerned Long Term Huntingtonian November 14, 2012 at 02:39 pm
Replacement Headline:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tell Us: Should Parents Carefully Watch Their Children, Especially Near Water? The unfortunate toddler drowning death in Heckscher Park Pond sparks debate about reminding parents to carefully watch their children. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A fence around the park pond is a ludicrous idea What's next, a fence at all the town beaches high tide marks, a local law that mandates for lifeguards for backyard parties with pools? Of course not. However, some additional signs that stress the importance of child supervision and safety, not just child or water, but all forms, as a personal responsibility in English and Spanish would be prudent.
B.B. November 14, 2012 at 03:51 pm
No to putting up a fence. Parents just need to be more diligent in watching their children. They need to hold their child's hand, use a stroller, and teach their children not to go near the water without supervision. I am so very sorry for this family's heartache. I hope that the child's father can one day find peace, because even the best of parents can make mistakes.
Jason Molinet (Editor) November 14, 2012 at 04:28 pm
That headline is too long.
Mike D November 14, 2012 at 04:30 pm
So it's not the government's responsibility to Nanny, but it is the government's responsibility to have a drop box for cell phones to Nanny.
Good Point!
Mike D November 14, 2012 at 04:32 pm
Let me guess, you don't have kids.
If so you're lying saying you never lost track of them for a minute. While I agree that no fence should be installed, there are horrible tragedies that happen from time to time and will continue to do so.
escape November 14, 2012 at 04:48 pm
Mike D...I was being facetious about the drop box, lol. Point is we shouldn't endorse a nanny state!
Joe L November 14, 2012 at 05:39 pm
Instead of a stupid fence, why not put a stupid sign telling parents to pay attention?
Michael John Sullivan November 14, 2012 at 05:50 pm
Why not fence every potential hazard? Parents need to be parents.
Leah Bush (Editor) November 14, 2012 at 06:02 pm
lol I like it.
FYI November 14, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Who sparked this debate? Seems like Patch started it. What's next? Drain all ponds, shoot the geese and keep kids home. There ya go. You simply can't legislate against stupidity. Whether it's negligence in overloading a boat, not securing your child in a proper safety seat, or not watching your child carefully enough in the park, they are all tragedies that could have been avoided. I'm angry that we lose children this way and becoming somewhat cynical that we don't hold the parents more accountable. And please don't lecture me about being cold hearted. You get tired of seeing it over and over again, the kids getting killed or killing others driving drunk in a new fast car bought by their "parents", the deteriorating sense of accountability on every level, especially the parents who go to great lengths to cover up, excuse and protect their children's actions. When did we ALL start being so irresponsible? I thought venting makes you feel better...It's not working.
Stephen Lamade November 15, 2012 at 03:02 am
Of course it's a terrible accident and I feel for the parents. But a fenced pond is not a pond.
Cath November 15, 2012 at 06:01 am
My heart goes out to the patents who lost there child this past weekend at heckscher park! But to put a fence up around the park, I think is ridiculous, I've went to that park for many years when my kids were small, and they loved going by the big pond and feeding the ducks but I never let go of them and if they were by the edge of the water I was right there with them, listen I understand accidents happen but some I believe can be prevented and one is keeping a closer eye on your children, specially now a days with kids getting kidnapped, don't get me wrong I am not in anyway putting down the parent who just lost his child, cause in life that's is not to be wished on any patent omg NO! I'm just trying to say if your gonna go to the park with your children then leave the phone in the car or in your pocket and spend that hour with them enjoying them cause life is to short' there's nothing more important then your child, no phone, no computer no nothing that will distract you from your presious babies, I mean Nothing!!! So for a fence to go up, is ridiculous, if that's the case we might as well never let them out, if we can't watch them!!
FYI November 15, 2012 at 03:40 pm
I still would like to know who sparked this debate in the first place? Was it Patch polling people for comments on their suggestion? Will someone from Patch provide an answer?
Pam Robinson (Editor) November 15, 2012 at 03:50 pm
Yes. Several people posted comments about the need for a fence on the first story. We saw such a reaction here on and Facebook and by email that we thought we'd ask everyone to express their views.
LJ November 15, 2012 at 07:28 pm
There was an article recently in the Wall Street Journal written about an increase in accidents in young children because their caretakers are on their phones. The paper cited specific incidents that were appalling. People actually took their eyes off their kids for several minutes. I was in the park in Northport a couple of weeks ago and witnessed this for myself. A toddler was playing on the jungle gym and her mother, babysitter, whoever, had her head down playing with her phone and didn't look up for about 5 minutes. I couldn't believe my eyes.
Danielle November 16, 2012 at 12:00 am
I grew up going to the park and I have brought my children to the park there. If a toddler drowned at the park, it is a very sad thing. If you teach your children that they need to respect water, and Where were the parents? Do not ruin the park because one parent was being irresponsible. a fence around the pond will make kids want to climb it and not to mention the teens who will break it. Our tax dollars if spent should be on educating parents on how to work on better parenting skills.
Bad parenting is on the rise, lets not take it out on everyone.

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